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Casual Mondays: The stupidest things boxing fanboys said this week (06/11/18)

Fifth edition
Credit to Boxing Prime.

I could have called this the British edition because of the many bad predictions on the weekend’s bouts and the piss-poor showings by their fighters. Terry Flanagan losing to a fringe-looking Maurice Hooker was even more disappointing than Tyson Fury’s foreplay with that Albanian cruiserweight. At the very least, Fury could have serenaded him afterwards. And me, for that matter.

Again, people have a tendency to side with their own and oftentimes throw logic to the cold wind when they develop an emotional relationship. Most fans aren’t hardcore followers anyhow, so a pass must be permitted. Unless you are this guy.

Might Want to Delete

He got the “tough Aussie” part right, if that’s worth saving. The problem is, being durable only gets you so far against men as skilled as Omaha’s Terence Crawford. It gets you nine rounds, to be exact.

That isn’t to say Horn is devoid of skill. That would be misleading. Horn has a nice bounce step to offset an opponent’s rhythm, he gives angles, he did try to occupy Crawford’s right-hand jab with his own throw-away lefts, he did keep his left guard high while tossing a right hand, and his stamina is good. He just wasn’t on the same playing field and it’s no shame.



“Bud” just stopped a naturally bigger guy. Sure, it wasn’t some devastating one-punch knockout, but it was a methodical beat-down in the vein of Errol Spence’s breakdown of Kell Brook. Crawford can hit.

I take issue with Charles Martin being labeled a “champ” more than anything.

Pump the Brakes

Crawford draws comparisons to Marvin Hagler for his switch-hitting prowess and I don’t mind it, seeing as it’s framed stylistically. It’s a different venture when you get into achievements. The problem is that Terence Crawford will never have a Thomas Hearns or Roberto Duran to run up against. Those sort of guys don’t exist today. It’s a combination of a lackluster amateur system for the Americans, too many belts, too many weight classes, too much politics, and a softening breed of man. “Bud” can’t do much about it.

He may be able to catch Mayweather. Both were two-division lineal/linear champions before hitting 147 (Mayweather at 130/135; Crawford at 135/140), but at 30 years of age, Crawford would have to maintain an impressive level of dominance from here on out.

Who Dis?

Where to begin? Maybe with the unbearable sight that six men of these men competed at heavyweight, with one being Mike Tyson, who doesn’t belong in the top-100. Personally, I’ve always had an issue with heavyweights cracking the top-10, regardless of their historical accomplishments. While I’m not completely opposed to their addition, I think it’s generally acknowledged that fighters who weigh above 180 don’t typically exhibit the skill smaller men do. It’s why you don’t often see welterweights getting away with pulling out like Ali did, or getting away with such a jab-heavy approaches. It’s also why you don’t see a lot of centers in NBA fans’ top-10 lists. Size, in these cases, is a big contributor.

In addition to that, and unless they started out smaller, such as the cases with Ezzard Charles, Gene Tunney, etc., heavyweights don’t have the flexibility to meet challenges that others do. If you are stuck with a poor class, that’s what you have to deal with. This is why the debate is more wide open as to who fills vacancies for a historian’s top-10. After Ali and Louis, you have a lot of freedom.

With that said, Johnson, Dempsey, Tyson, Chavez, and Marciano can all exit. None have the resumes of Greb, Langford, Charles, Duran, Leonard, Gans, and plenty of others.

Ring, Ring, Ring

Stay by the phone Montes, you are on the short list of judges for Gennady “GGG” Golovkin vs. Saul “Canelo” Alvarez II.

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